Inside: Flowering trees provide forage, shade, and habitat. They also extract CO2 from the air, break strong winds, and prevent runoff. If you want to do a good thing for the bees, for us, or for the planet, plant a tree. Nothing is more important.
Table of contents
- Sky gardens: planting the overhead
- Square-foot gardening
- A variation on square-foot planting
- A life strung together with trees
- Trees for a healthy life
- Trees can cut your energy bill
- Trees thrive on carbon dioxide
- Trees have a short carbon cycle
- Trees reduce runoff and keep water cleaner
- Trees benefit wildlife and vice versa
- Trees as windbreaks
- Flowering trees for bees
- Some of the best flowering bee trees
- Beekeepers can make a difference
Sky gardens: planting the overhead
When we consider planting for pollinators, we often focus on crop plants or garden flowers that bloom at eye level or below. These range from tiny forget-me-nots to swaths of clover to prickly jungles of raspberries.
For whatever reason, we rarely consider trees for our pollinator gardens. We may think trees are slow to grow, deposit messy litter on the lawn, or shed shade where we don’t want it. Or perhaps we overestimate the danger of a tree that grows close to the house.
But if there is one thing our planet needs more of, it’s trees. And lucky for us beekeepers, honey bees thrive on flowering trees. And so do we.
Square-foot gardening
A few years ago, so-called square-foot gardening was all the rage, especially in urban areas. The goal was to plant many species within neatly divided square-foot plots, usually in raised beds. Compared to planting in rows, aficionados touted this practice as more efficient and less wasteful of water and soil amendments.
But if you want to plant for honey bees, so much variety in a small space is counterproductive. At the very least, honey bees prefer to collect from a single species for the duration of a foraging trip. And a full day of trips is even better. When feeding honey bees, a bigger plot is better.
A variation on square-foot planting
Although I never got into checkerboard gardening, I think of it whenever I plant a tree. After clearing a little patch of soil — not much bigger than a square foot — I sink a hole in the center and plant my itsy-bitsy seedling. I tend it for a year or two, deleting weeds and adding water until it looks happy.
Afterward, I forget about it, sometimes for years. Then one day, I walk by and realize my twig is as big as a house — well, taller than a house, anyway. If only my bank account had the same vigor.
I’ve always been a tree planter. Each spring, I’ve purchased trees from my conservation district, usually in bundles of ten or twenty-five. Those trees are the reason my house is chilly on the sweatiest summer days (no air conditioning needed). They’re also the reason the paint lasts so long (no UV light to ruin it), and the reason my hives are in constant shade, something the bees don’t seem to mind at all.

A life strung together with trees
One day last summer, beneath an azure midwestern sky, I sat in the grass contemplating the biggest cottonwoods I’ve ever seen. The trees were iconic, rough-barked giants, with beefy branches as thick as full-grown sycamores with the kind of roots that tilt sidewalks and crack driveways. Their stately presence and look-at-me attitude unleashed a wash of tree memories.
Trees have been a lifetime source of happiness and contentment. I see my life as a string of beads where each bead is a different tree. I’ve simply gone from one to the next, admiring every one of them.
Trees for a healthy life
Is anything more magical than a fragrant manila rope hanging from a shady oak loud with chattering squirrels and squawking jays? My third-grade rope — coarse, shaggy, and redolent of rotting grass — ended in a fat knot that kept me from sliding to the ground. Despite calloused hands and ragged fingers, I spent lazy summers swinging in great arcs, hoping I would never grow up.
Besides providing wood and fruit and piles of musky leaves, trees in our neighborhoods purify the air, reduce road noise, provide privacy, lower our exposure to UV radiation, and keep us cooler. Trees lure us to the outdoors and introduce us to wildlife and sounds we remember for a lifetime: the squawking of birds, the chatter of chipmunks, and the cacophony of busy insects.
Playgrounds with shade are more popular than those in bright sun, and picnickers like a table under a tree despite bird droppings, seeds, pollen, and leaves that land there. Trees provide comfort like a well-worn security blanket. Nothing lures humanity like a tree.
Study after study confirms that green spaces promote emotional health and happiness. They ease anxiety and depression and can lessen anger. Studies have shown that inner-city crime and violence diminish in areas with shade trees, and kids are more likely to play outside.
Then too, trees provide private places. Even with people all around, trees help us collect our thoughts and sort through problems. People seek trees as places to read, talk to friends, or simply watch the world pass by. And since wildlife loves trees as much as we do, tree lovers are never truly alone but surrounded by companions of every size and disposition.

Trees can cut your energy bill
Years ago, while hiking with family members in the Anza-Borrego desert east of San Diego, we came across a stand of mortero palms. Entering the stand was physically shocking, like stepping into a walk-in freezer. But instead of dry, the air among the trees felt thick and damp and smelled like aging hay bales. Those astonishing trees grew straight and tall amid boulder piles in the scorching desert heat, yet wore layers of dead fronds like frilly petticoats that shaded the ground beneath.
Buildings shaded by trees can easily escape the huge energy loads of air conditioning. My home is a good example. Over the past thirty years, untold numbers of visitors have gushed. “Oh my, it’s so cool in here!” Or, “You must have heavy-duty air conditioning.”
Yet we have no air conditioning and never did. And even with warmer daytime temperatures, I still wear a hoody at my desk all summer long. One by one, our surrounding neighbors cut down their trees, and each expressed surprise when they could no longer bear the summer heat without air conditioning. Homes can be 10-15 degrees cooler just by leaving trees in place.
And if the trees are deciduous, you get a double benefit: cool shade in summer, and sunny warmth in winter. You couldn’t design a better system, no matter how much money you poured into it.

Trees thrive on carbon dioxide
With all the environmental problems we have, I’m surprised we continue to cut trees and clear the land just because we can. Now more than ever before, we need to give trees the respect they deserve.
Like all plants, trees take up carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O) during the day. When we add sunlight, the chlorophyll in plants produces sugar (glucose) and oxygen (O2) through photosynthesis. The oxygen enriches the atmosphere and the carbon-containing glucose gets stored in the plant.
But like animals, plants respire 24/7, using O2 and giving off CO2. During the day when photosynthesis occurs, plants use only some of the O2 for respiration and release the rest into the air. During darkness, however, photosynthesis stops so plants must use O2 from the air and give off CO2. Despite this reversal, plants release less CO2 at night than they use during the day. That means trees are carbon sinks: storage vaults for carbon.
In trees, most of the carbon gets stored in the wood. Later, if we burn that tree as firewood, the carbon dioxide goes back into the atmosphere, turning the wood into a carbon dioxide source.

Trees have a short carbon cycle
For many trees, such as Douglas fir, the carbon cycle takes about 60 years. The tree lives and stores carbon for roughly 60 before we cut it. If we build a house with it, the carbon remains in the wood. If we burn the wood, the CO2 goes back into the atmosphere.
This cycle of collection and release is short in geologic terms. Before people began burning fossil fuels, the CO2 regularly cycled between plants and the atmosphere, such that the atmospheric levels of CO2 remained very constant. But burning fossil fuels yields a very different result because it takes millions of years to recycle the CO2 back into the ground and make coal or oil. As a result, our atmospheric CO2 is rising quickly.
Recent research shows that trees release more carbon dioxide during respiration when temperatures are higher. But even in a warming atmosphere, trees will continue to be carbon sinks. Other research shows that older trees store more carbon than young trees, which means we should be cautious about cutting mature trees that cannot quickly be replaced.
Trees reduce runoff and keep water cleaner
The benefits of trees go far beyond carbon storage. The roots of trees create channels through the soil that direct water into the ground. Forested areas have little runoff, while rain in cleared areas runs freely into streams, rivers, lakes, and ponds. Along the way, the runoff collects pollutants, particles, and pesticides that taint our water and poison our wildlife. Predictably, sampling has proven that water sources protected by trees are cleaner and healthier.
Uncontrolled runoff also causes flooding. As we’ve all seen, areas that are newly logged, ravaged by wildfires, or cleared of vegetation are the first to flood in heavy rainstorms. Not only do trees use large amounts of water, but their networks of roots, from minuscule to huge, hold the soil in place and direct the water into subsurface layers.

Trees benefit wildlife and vice versa
Despite my best intentions, I eventually grew older, but I appeased this upsetting development with a “thinking tree.” My sugar maple was anchored to the bank of a murky pond. Years earlier, someone had twisted a secondary trunk into a spiral that grew into a fat, smooth barber pole. Below branches that strained toward the sun, the semi-stagnant water curated ducks, snapping turtles, bullfrogs, and shiny fish that leapt for bugs.
In salmon streams, trees are necessary to keep the water cool enough for the eggs to hatch. Because cold water holds more oxygen than warm water, the eggs need cold water to survive. If the water is too warm, the eggs will simply perish. In addition, tree roots stabilize the stream banks and create snags — safe havens for the fish to hide. Above the water, tree debris, including sticks, leaves, catkins, and seeds, drop into the water and provide food for insects. Then, as a bonus, the insects become food for the fish. What a system.
In a fascinating twist, research shows that the carcasses of salmon that die after spawning wash ashore and fertilize the trees along the stream beds. Biologists have found salmon biomarkers in the tops of some of the tallest and oldest trees living along salmon-bearing streams. These unexpected data are giving scientists a way to tell where salmon historically spawned and suggest where restoration efforts may be most successful.
Trees as windbreaks
Without trees to anchor the topsoil, it can all be blown away. For centuries we have used trees as windbreaks to reduce the erosion of topsoil. When wind that carries soil particles hits a row of trees, the speed of travel slows and soil particles drop to the ground. Without a system of foiling wind currents, soil can travel hundreds of miles from its origin, ruining farmland, polluting the air, and creating deserts.

Flowering trees for bees
When we think of pollinator plantings, it’s easy to forget about trees. Yet, one tree can equal an entire field of flowers, all growing out of that square foot of real estate. And many trees make tasty honey, even while they provide fruit, nuts, and animal forage.
If you want to plant flowering trees for honey bees, just about any fruit tree will do. Apples, crab apples, peaches, plums, and cherries are all great for bees. Some varieties get more flowers than others, so for maximum pollinator benefit, find out what locally grown varieties are best.
One of the quirky features of much tree honey is its high fructose content. This one component makes it much more resistant to crystallization than most honey produced by forbs.
I have big-leaf maple honey that’s twelve years old and still perfectly liquid (and exquisitely delicious). Other honeys that seem to stay liquid forever are cascara, tupelo, chestnut, and black locust.
If growing fruit is not your thing, there are plenty of flowering trees to choose from. Depending on your area, you might choose serviceberry, redbud, basswood, willows, maples, sourwood, or lack locust. You can easily find a tree that fits your lifestyle.

Some of the best flowering bee trees
I once stayed in a classic bed-and-breakfast in eastern Oregon. I had been photographing alkali bees in the fields of Touchet, Washington, but in the evening I enjoyed the dry winds escaping south from the Palouse. As I sat under a luxuriant tulip poplar helping a boy with his balsa-wood airplane, I heard an industrial-strength hum. I glanced around looking for the source until the boy pointed into the leaves overhead. “It’s them,” he said. “Bees.”
Many of the best trees for bees are already all around us. Often, we are so busy with daily life that we don’t notice the vast abundance of pollinators attending the blooms. Below, I’ve listed some of the best trees for bees.
Avocado (Persea americana): Avocado trees are evergreens that do well in warm climates. They produce deliciously dark molasses-like honey with an intense aroma.
Basswood or linden (Tilia americana) blooms with creamy white flowers in late spring. The fragrant blossoms are much admired by honey bees, culminating in a popular honey described as “woodsy” with hints of bitterness.
Black locust (Robinia pseudoacacia) produces clusters of aromatic white flowers in late spring. In good years, bees can store large amounts of light, vanilla-tinged honey in a matter of days. The honey, sometimes labeled “Acacia,” is especially slow to crystallize.
Black tupelo (Nyssa sylvatica): Tiny, inconspicuous greenish flowers make tempting honey with notes of cinnamon and citrus. The trees produce extraordinary fall colors.
Cascara (Rhamnus purshiana) is a small Northwest tree that produces oodles of dark purple berries that birds and other wildlife treasure. The inconspicuous green flowers produce medium amber honey with a rich, smoky taste.
Citrus (Citrus × sinensis and Citrus limon) produces the highly prized orange blossom honey with its distinctive orange flavor. Although these trees are reproduced by grafting, the flowers still produce plentiful nectar that honey bees prize.
Crape myrtle (Lagerstroemia): Common in the Southeast, crape myrtle is a favorite of honey bees, especially in late summer when little else is in bloom. They come in many varieties, most with showy flowers and vibrant fall foliage.
Fruit trees come in both fruiting and non-fruiting types. They include apples, cherries, crabapples, peaches, and pears. The bees love the pollen and we get to harvest the fruits of their labor.
Hawthorne (Crataegus): Considered one of the best bee trees, hawthorns are also known for attracting many types of wildlife.
Redbud (Cercis canadensis): Clusters of showy redbud flowers appear in early spring, emerging from the stems in flaming shades of pink. Bees in abundance, including honey bees, bumble bees, mason bees, mining bees, long-horn bees, and sweat bees enjoy both the nectar and pollen. The leaves are hosts for the larvae of some butterflies and moths.
Serviceberry (Amelanchier): Early spring blossoms appear before the leaves, yielding berries for birds and jam. The nectar-rich blooms are favorites of honey bees, mason bees, and mining bees.
Sourwood (Oxydendrum arboreum): Sourwood displays striking fall foliage in shades of tangerine, scarlet, and plum. In spring, lily-of-the-valley-shaped flowers dangle from the branches, attracting pollinators of all sorts, including honey bees. Lightly amber sourwood honey is prized for its spicy flavor topped with hints of caramel and nuts.
Southern magnolia (Magnolia grandiflora): Many people consider the stately southern magnolia a messy tree, always dropping something. But the big, fragrant flowers are well-attended by bees and other pollinators.
Sweetgum (Liquidambar): Small trees with lusty red and yellow leaves in fall, and small, inconspicuous bee-attracting flowers in spring.
Tulip trees (Liriodendron tulipifera): Large and fast-growing, tulip poplars have many greenish-yellow tulip-shaped flowers that yield both nectar and pollen. The strong and dark honey is often used for baking.
Willows (Salix): In general, the many willows are very early and extremely attractive to a wide variety of pollinators, including honey bees.

Beekeepers can make a difference
Although it was a long time coming, trees are finally making a comeback. Today, hundreds of organizations, large and small, global and local, promote trees to save the planet. As the rate of deforestation rises, people are fighting back and spreading the word.
As beekeepers, we understand the importance of a healthy environment for bees and other living things. We know a well-chosen tree can provide as much bee forage as a meadow, produce gallons of fine honey, and give wildlife a place to live (and our swarms a place to land). Beekeepers everywhere can score a win for the environment by planting a tree or three.
Beekeepers are in a unique position. We can easily help our bees thrive by providing vertical forage that feeds and protects them. At the same time, we can enhance our neighborhoods, keep our water clean, and reduce runoff and erosion. Planting a few extra trees can elevate our property values, cool our neighborhoods, make us happy, and extract pounds and pounds of carbon at the same time.
And don’t forget, we can also harvest from our trees. Not only honey, fruit, nuts, and wood but memories, the kind that can last a lifetime. What could be better than that?
Rusty
Honey Bee Suite
I would suggest that linden honey is slightly minty rather than woodsy and definitely not bitter. It is the sweetest tasting honey I have ever had.
The predominant tasting impressions are consistently “Wow! That’s sweet!” Which is a funny reaction when taste testing honey varietals when you think about it…
You’re right. Anything that’s 80% sugar is going to taste—what’s the word?—sweet.
Rusty,
Can you recommend a zone 8 trees that are very fast growing and have a long period of flowering, lots of nectar & pollen when most needed and can grow in sandy basically subsoil with little topsoil?
The only thing I’ve found that fits the bill is Black Locust, but I want to expand my repertoire.
Thanks,
Jeff D.
Jeff,
Black locust. Oh…sorry. Can anyone out there answer this? The sandy soil and sparse topsoil make nutrients hard to find.
As the audience of this site is widespread, I would share two words of caution wrt black locust. First the trees are laden with super sharp thorns which are flesh tearing and far worse than other thicket-growing invasives like buckthorn.
The second (for those of northern and midwest sites) is that black locust can be quite invasive, recognized as such by several state DNRs. I would check with your state agencies before planting. (The amount of chemical herbicides that your neighbors and their neighbor’s neighbors might employ to eliminate black locust and maintain balance in the tree ecosystem would far outweigh a beekeeper’s personal benefit, IMHO.)
On the flip side, the honey from black locust is quite good. Mild and not as sweet as Linden (with that oh so pleasant warming of your throat feel), but still the second sweetest honey that I have ever tasted in head to head comparisons. And the trunks of the trees have been used as fence posts by farmers for centuries with the fenceposts themselves lasting about a century (with no fungicides or metals added)! It is also a nitrogen fixer which may account for its notoriously rapid growth in Northern climes.
YMMV with this species. Please check with your DNR. Your local university extension might answer specific nutrition questions in your local climate.
Rob,
One thing I’ve noticed is that native forest undergrowth that was not thriving has perked up under the black locust. The shade, the nitrogen, and the accumulation of organic matter under them seems to have given a boost to many natives.
I’m in zone 7, Portland, Oregon, and on very gravelly soil. I have bees (bumbles and honeybees) all over my Vitex for all of August. It’s a relatively small tree, though. There are hawthorns as street trees—another small tree.
This should be mandatory reading. Or at least for all MY neighbors.
And here’s hoping YOUR neighbors might try to undo their tree-devastation, for the sake of the future.
“The best time to plant a tree is thirty years ago. The second best time is NOW.”
Every time I see someone fell a tree, I feel sick. People have no idea what they’re doing. Why do humans think we can kill every (other) living thing and somehow we’ll survive. It makes no sense.
Manifest destiny – the most destructive two words ever spoken.
Bill,
Unfortunately, I agree.
I would be happy to add compost top dressing. I bought a square foot gardening mix that of blended compost that has made my black locust, hazelnut, citrus, apple, cherry, and fig trees very happy. If nutrients were not an issue what other big bloomers would be good? I bought a chaste tree in a pot that all my bee buddies love. They go crazy for sweet basil flowers…bananas!!!!
Rusty, I too am dismayed when I see native flora/fauna displaced by uninformed people. But I’m also of the school of thought that removal of exotics (yep! chopping them down if necessary) and replacing them with native species is key to the way people should be addressing the issue.
On my local front (the northeast of Brazil IS a battle zone) we have two exceptionally problematic trees that should be removed at every chance:
1-Nim (Azadirachta indica)
2-African Tulip tree (Spathodea campanulata)
You can look up Spathodea campanulata and I’m pretty sure that you’ll agree, this exotic should never be introduced anywhere near where one has serious bee colonies (domesticated bees or native bees).
Nim is a special problem. Here in our semi-arid interior the nim tree is being planted as if it were a major solution to our dry seasons. These trees keep leaves when all other trees lose their cover. They flower when there are no other plants flowering. And that is the key to their special problem (the nim has already been classified as an invasive species problem in Australia). The native bees (domestic too) will go to the nim flower when there are no other places to go. There is [still] a lot of controversy over negative impacts on bees BUT it is known that the nim tree’s ability to adapt to this environment costs native species their proper place.
I guess that since the days of when I used to cut honeysuckle and wild mustard out of Wisconsin natural areas and then also replant [always] native species as much as possible, the lesson we learned was that natives (pollinators and their target species) were always the best bet for balanced natural relationships.
Then there are the oligoleges (specialist pollinators) that really do need their target species and vice-versa.
One of the last projects I had the fortune of being involved in before moving to Brazil was on more recent Faville Grove restoration in Wisconsin.
https://madisonaudubon.org/faville-grove
Should you like to look at the history of this project (protection of native species) there is a two-part video by Charles Johannsen:
Aldo Leopold at Faville Grove part 1
https://youtu.be/BZS6WXRxINY
Aldo Leopold at Faville Grove part 2
https://youtu.be/RegzwfTj47Y
Matthew,
Thank you. Fascinating projects.
One unfortunate twist on climate change is that some natives aren’t doing well in their historical habitats. But I think growing more trees in general will help all the other species, especially the native ones.
Rusty,
Thank you so much for an exhaustive listing of tree positives!
I have always gravitated towards trees since young. I now own a 50 acre mixed hardwood woodlot. It sits as a woodland island amidst extensive cash crops on all sides for miles. I always thought it an oasis for wildlife like deer passing through, and now appreciate it even more as a fertile feeding ground for my modest 8 colony apiary.
As with my bees, the benefit of my woodlot (and it’s 3 miles of trails I cut) to my peace of mind is incalculable.
Gerry,
It sounds heavenly! And I appreciate people who appreciate trees.
Glad you mentioned hawthorn; we have two of them in our backyard and the bees and birds sure love them. I do wish they were less of a weedy mess though; we have a very tiny backyard and the hawthorns really sprawl all over it. I can’t ignore them for years out here!
Unfortunately we live in a cool climate, so I have to be careful where I put trees — the bees around here don’t go in the shade.
Here in Zone 8b in South Louisiana the bees favorite tree is the Chinese tallow. It is in introduced tree that is invasive. There are still some homeowners that plant them from seedlings they find. They seed easily and will grow from the roots of nearby tallows. Farmers, ranchers, and landowners fight them constantly. If you are a beekeeper in the country there are plenty around the edges of the woods and in abandoned fields and make wonderful honey. As I said, it is an invasive species, so there will always be that battle between controlling it and the beekeeper than loves the honey.
Melinda,
See more on Chinese tallow here: https://www.honeybeesuite.com/honey-bee-forage-chinese-tallow-tree/
Rusty, thank you for a most informative post.
Can I suggest an addition to your “trees for bees” list, from this side of the “pond”?
My suggestion is the European maple tree (in French the Erable tree).
Sorry, I do not know the Latin name. The leaves are very much smaller than the Canadian variety. There are quite a number of these trees yards from my bees at 1000 meters up the mountain. There are also these trees further up, at say 200 m higher. The higher they are the earlier they seem to flower. They flower in March to April.
I have arrived at my bees (usually about 20 hives there plus many hives in the general area) and thought that the noise I heard indicated a swarming going on. One time I searched for 20 mins until I deduced that the bees were in a feeding frenzy on the Erable trees.
The joy for me is two fold. Here, these trees are available in the early season, that gives the bees something to focus on that builds the colonies at a critical time. The second, is that the honey harvested is totally delightful.
I would add that my hives are generally in one location (only apart from about five hives I bring lower down during the winter to gain time as a one month difference in “spring” starting (250 m to 1000 m in altitude) allows me to get ahead in splits.
I generally do a number of harvests, usually about 4 between July and September. I mainly started this because I cannot manage one harvest, it is simply too much for me at any one time. What I found by doing several harvests during the summer gives me distinctly different honeys.
Michael
Hi Michael,
When I looked up Erable tree, I found it listed on a Canadian website as red maple or Érable rouge (Acer rubrum). You said the leaves of yours are much smaller than the Canadian trees, so I wonder if it’s a different variety or if the smallness is due to high altitude. So interesting!
I love it that you do multiple harvests. Some people don’t realize the difference in flavor and color their honey has from month to month. And if they just harvest it all at once and mix it together, they would never know about all the sublime variations.
By the way, I’ve experienced the same buzzing madness when our big-leaf maples are in bloom. I always think I’m hearing swarms until I realize the bees are obsessing over the light green blossoms overhead.
I just planted a redbud and a serviceberry for the bumblebees in the last couple days. When placing them, I tried to align them with the afternoon sun to shade my windows. I also have spot marked where I’m going to plant a dogwood for some pollen specialist bees.
For people looking for what trees to plant, the National Wildlife Federation has a very usefull plant finder that will guide you to what trees will have the most impact for birds (by hosting caterpillars) and pollinators. In most of North America, the top five trees are Oaks, Willows, Cherry (Prunus), Pines, and Poplar.
http://nwf.org/nativeplantfinder/plants
Are you familiar with the work on trees and bees being done by Dr. Kass Urban-Mead? I first heard her in a fascinating interview on PolliNation, where she describes how she gets into the trees to do her research.
https://extension.oregonstate.edu/podcast/pollination-podcast/113-kass-urban-mead-bees-trees
More recently, she’s been giving a talk titled “Pollinators in the Woods?” It’s just filled with the “oh, wow!” moments.
Here’s the version I heard with the Mass. Pollinator Network.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62TzvbEns-0
Thanks!
Pam,
Thank you for the links. I haven’t perused them yet, but hope to today. Bees in forestland has always been an interest of mine, probably because I live adjacent to a state forest, so I’m excited to listen to that one, especially.
How to get rid of ants in the hive?
Sterling,
Try this: Ants no more: how to keep ants out of your beehives. Be sure to read the comments, too. Lots of ideas in there.
Also, you can try Bad-ant advice and the ascension of bees Again, lots of help in the comment section.