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What the heck is vegan honey?

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Update: Included at the end of this post is a statement by Katie Sanchez of Bee Free Honee.

Honey is excluded from the vegan diet by definition. Both the definition and the term “vegan” are credited to Donald Watson, who promoted the idea back in 1944. A few months later, the Vegan Society of England adopted Watson’s model. He wrote:

Veganism is a way of living which excludes all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, the animal kingdom, and includes a reverence for life. It applies to the practice of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals.

So if honey is included in the official definition, there is no doubt that honey is off limits to vegans. I am frequently asked why honey is vegan, and knowing this will make it easier to answer.

But here is my question: Recently my daughter—who is vegetarian but not vegan—found a recipe that calls for “3 tablespoons of vegan honey.” She asked me, “What the heck is vegan honey?” Good question. As she points out, the phrase is confusing. Like fat-free half-and-half, it defies all manner of logic.

So I did an internet search. Lo and behold, you can buy something called “Bee Free Honee” that is made from concentrated apples, beet sugar, and lemon juice. At least one reviewer says it’s “even better than the real thing.”

Personally, I doubt it’s better than the real thing, especially since it comes in four flavors that don’t particularly remind me of honey: original, mint, chocolate, and ancho chili.

But the thing that’s most baffling? The label. It reads “All Natural • Plant Based.” While that is no doubt a true statement, you could say the same thing about honey: both are all natural and plant-based. Honey is made from nectar, and nectar comes from plants. Okay, maybe a bit of bee spit too, but when apples are pressed, all kinds of bugs and caterpillars, wormy things and slugs, get squeezed along with the fruit.

Some lifeforms are hard to avoid. According to the FDA Defect Levels Handbook, apple butter (which is also a form of concentrated apples) is not flagged until the 100-gram samples contain an average of four or more rodent hairs and 5 or more whole or equivalent insects (not including mites, aphids, thrips, or scale insects). These levels are set for aesthetic reasons only, and it sounds like the mites, aphids, thrips, and scale insects are so small that they are not even counted. So much for vegan.

And speaking of animal exploitation, I wonder who pollinated all those apple trees? And the lemons? Is it possible that bees were stacked on a flatbed and trucked across the country, servants to the ag industry? Is it possible that apples and lemons are “commodities derived wholly or in part from animals” or their labor? One reviewer wrote, “No bees die in the production of no-bee honey.” I wonder how sure she is about that. Both agriculture itself, and the migratory beekeeping that serves agriculture, are very hard on bees.

I certainly have nothing against veganism: people should be free to eat what they want. But I find it odd that people take labels at face value without evaluating the subtleties—the details about where food comes from and how it’s processed.

At any rate, consider this a public service announcement for beekeepers: now you know where to send your vegan friends who can’t eat honey. But for the record, I don’t understand why vegans condone consumption of bee-pollinated crops or the ingestion of insect parts that are invariably part of our food supply. To me, that is no less abusive than eating honey—bees die either way.

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Response by Katie Sanchez of Bee Free Honee:

Thank you Rusty, for allowing me the opportunity to respond to your blog and the thread of comments following your discovery of Bee Free Honee. I would like to begin this is my product: I created it (by accident). I was trying to make apple jelly and did not read the directions. Later, I began to hear about the decline in the honey bee and began to learn more about what was happening in the industry and asked myself: Can I do something with that mistake?

My father was a beekeeper growing up; most of my life bees were our closest neighbors. I love bees and all pollinators and have a great deal of respect for them. I grew up around people that believed in doing things simply, naturally. As I got older and moved away from home, I lost touch with that world so I was shocked to find how much beekeeping had changed since my last exposure to it. I began to learn about national hive renting and local hive renting and their differences. I learned about nutrient deficiencies for our pollinators due to farming practices, grooming of the roadsides, and clearing land for construction spreading into rural areas. I read articles on the decline of the honey bee and realized that what was being put out was not a call for action but a way for people to get mad about governments allowing certain pesticides and cell phone use…but not a demand for change. I looked in the stores and saw shelves of honey, honey sold by the gallon all year long, not seasonally as I knew it to be.

I realized this is not only about neonicotinoids and cell phones; this is also about our expectations as consumers to purchase honey all year round and in unlimited quantities, at a low cost. This is about pollinating fields at the expense of the insects, without allowing the costs of maintenance of the hives cut into the bottom-line. Could almond growers have their own hives, they could but they do not want to. The reasoning given is that there is not enough water or food for the bees to live on; some orchards say it is too hot for the bees and no shelter to protect them; the bees would cook in the hives. Well, there are solutions for all of that…it is not an overnight solution but we can make this work. First of all, we build shelters for all other animals; we could build simple shelters for bees. Water is provided for livestock; why not provide it for bees. Green walls are now very water efficient, they could be built strategically to provide  the nutrient diversity for the bees, and as they are built vertically, they take up almost no land. This would also increase the amount of  water that is put back into the atmosphere through transpiration. According to : “For example a large oak tree can transpire 40,000 gallons of water per year. About 10 percent of the earth’s atmospheric moisture can be attributed to plant transpiration. The rest is supplied by evaporation and the water cycle.” The fewer greenery the less transpiration – likewise, increase greenery and produce more fresh water.

Think of the good for our fresh water supply, cleaning up the air quality, and for our pollinators if we began to build green walls strategically. Think of the good we could do if we kept bees stationary, if we began to treat them as the beautiful special and important insect that they are. Not just think of them as a means to a commodity. Why is there not more education on the Mason bee? They are less aggressive, native to our country and easy to house….and very effective pollinators. Maybe because they don’t produce a commodity?

Through Bee Free Honee, I do my best to educate the public on these topics as well as asking them: If you are buying honey simply as a flavor profile in cooking or baking; Why not find an alternative that will provide the same result but allow the bees some time to regain in strength and in numbers? We cannot just continue on business as usual and expect it to be okay. We need to make changes. I do understand that change is hard. I do understand that there will be people who will never understand or approve of what we are doing. But to reduce it to being simply vegan does not do it justice. Vegan is one attribute of our product, another is that we need to save the bees and I am trying to do something about it in any and every way I can. It may not be the method others would choose but that is why we value the freedoms our country affords us. So we can all go forward in our own individual ways.

We try to be very clear about what Bee Free Honee is. When we did use beet sugar, it was non-GMO, but that local farmer sold his field to a company that planted GMO beets, so we switched to Vegan quality, non-GMO cane sugar. We use only as much is as needed to create tackiness, no more. Lemon juice is the only preservative and the rest is apple. That is it. From every angle of the bottle we clearly write that we are from apples and even have the words “contains no real honey” on the bottle. The word ‘Honee’ is a descriptive; ‘Bee Free’ refers to the process in which it is made, not to how it was pollinated.

I hope this clarifies our stance, if you would like to read more, we have a page on the bees on our website that talks about our stand, and there is a page on how it all got started. I hope you feel comfortable taking a look through the site. I hope you are able to see that we are trying to create a positive. Thank you for your time.

Katie Sanchez
Bee Free Honee

Bee on apple blossom.
Bee on apple blossom. Pixabay public domain photo.

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  • I’m reminded of my vegan friend who doesn’t eat honey because it exploits the labour of the bees. This is the same friend who drinks almond milk every day and doesn’t apprehend the contradiction. Or am I missing something?

  • I saw the Honee stuff in the store and was baffled. I had no idea beforehand that honey was vegan (I also didn’t know that I was considered a slave owner for having beehives, so there’s that!).

  • Aren’t vegetables and fruits the “labor” of the trees and plants. Aren’t plants exploited much worse than bees? I would think that cutting off their limbs because they don’t produce enough produce is not humane……or should I say plantane? Am I missing something?

  • Vegan honey, wow. I am surprised they didn’t claim it is also 100% organic. You can’t fix stupid.

    I wonder if the bees would eat it?

  • Vegetarian, as I understand, decides not to eat animal for any number of reasons including health, palate or compassion. But vegan seems more of a religion.
    Bees collect nectar, process it and provide it in bulk (more than they themselves can use) = Honey
    Humans collect fruits and sugars, process it and provide it in bulk = Vegan Honee
    So are not humans exploited as much as the bees?

    And thanks Rusty for that visual of squished up slugs in my cider.

  • As a vegan-ish beekeeper, I have a somewhat non-standard view of this. I went vegan because of my chickens, so it’s compassion-based. I decided to keep bees around the same time, because I thought there should be more bees in the world. So I don’t do bees for the honey, but for the good of the bees themselves. Occasionally we accidentally get some honey from wavy comb, but mostly we save the frames for winter in case the bees need it.

    The vegans who avoid honey (and not all do) but happily eat almonds are a pet peeve of mine. Apparently the theory is that pollination is not exploiting like honey harvesting is. I have posted once or twice on vegan forums about along pollination being approximately equivalent to factory egg farms. But people have their ideas and it’s hard to get them to budge.

    It’s impossible to cause no harm in this world – all you can do is reduce the negative impact you make in your daily life, and do as many positive things as you can.

    • Pat,

      I think almond pollination is worse than judicious honey harvesting because almonds are a monoculture which lead to poor diet, the bees must be shipped long distances in trucks, the fields are treated with pesticides before and after the bees are working, competition between colonies is treacherous, the bees are pumped with sugar to get them to build up early . . . and on and on. That was the point of my post, I think, that in general people are in the dark about their food. Most have no idea what goes on in the field to put their food on the table.

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

      • As a long-time vegan, I do eat honey from a local sanctuary in London, Ontario. And I’m not alone, many vegans do the same. I won’t buy commercial brands, however. If I tell millennial vegans that I eat honey, they freak out and tell me I’m not vegan. Beekeepers are extremely important especially in today’s world because populations are declining. In speaking to my local beekeeper, I am comfortable with her practices and feel that her methods are ethical. Having said this, I don’t think it’s necessary to mock/knock vegan honey, as it is a delicious alternative product for whoever wants it. It’s impossible to be 100% vegan in today’s world, but I live a vegan lifestyle because it is important to me to try to lessen the unnecessary harm done in this world to its most innocent inhabitants. Not all vegans are the same, just like any other group in society. Education and an open mind are the keys.

  • Lucky for the vegans there are a number of us mean spirited overseers enslaving the bees for honey. Otherwise, there would be a lot less money, research, and effort to help the bees survive so they can pollinate the veggies so the vegans can eat with a clear conscience.

  • While I have a certain respect for vegans because of their good intentions, I think their efforts are somewhat misplaced. As you eloquently pointed out, all living things (other than some plants and bacteria) “exploit” other living things for their survival. It is in the nature of being part of the biosphere. A lion is not a worse kind of thing than a flower; it’s simply a different kind of thing.

    I think it’s wiser to direct one’s efforts towards respecting one’s place in the ecosystem, towards allowing nature to follow and enforce its rules without our micromanagement, and towards putting the health of the entire biosphere over our individual, immediate convenience.

    Those are all worthy goals, and far more realistic than attempting to have zero impact on self-motile organisms on the grounds that their motility somehow grants them moral rights above and beyond other organisms.

    • The only vegans who have a totally clear conscience are the ones who have not thoroughly thought things through. 😉 One of the secondary reasons I’m vegan is because it’s better for the environment and results in the consumption (via the food chain) of fewer plants as well. So I choose my food products (and other products) with care to reduce my impact.

  • Me, enslaving my bees?! HA! It’s exactly the opposite! I work my butt off taking care of them!

    • Interesting and informative. Thank you.

      As a vegan who does not consumer honey due to the majority of honey production being harmful to bee health and thus completely unethical and cruel, I have still been of the opinion that I can understand a particular kind of bee-keeper who may keep bees and take a LITTLE honey for their own use, being ethically responsible and indeed altruistic.

      Times and production of what we view as “food” changes. Once a family might take a little of the milk from a nursing cow for a child… they would share. We know that’s highly unlikely to occur if we are “farming’.
      At the end of the day does a human need the milk of another species (or honey)? No, not unless they are tiny infants (under 6 m) and unable to nurse from a human (mum or otherwise).

      Does a farmer work his butt off “taking care of them” as Kathleen states above.. Yes. But why? For the being who they intend to care for, for their term of their natural life? Because they are so altruistic? No of course not. They sell the milk, kill the boy calves sooner or a few weeks later or ship them off for someone else to raise as veal or kill as wastage… and in time kill the mums they profess to care for too…

      How much of this kind of thing happens in beekeeping situations, I don’t know. I don’t focus my efforts on honey. Dairy is far worse. Eggs, Meat, Fish. I landed here researching for someone who is decreasing the use of animal products and asked about honey. I’ve learnt a bit too. Almonds. I knew it but hadn’t considered MY impact there! Thank you!

      But I digress. If we care for bees so much, great, have hives and let the bees eat all the fruits of their labours and do their thing. Heaven knows we need them to live and thrive and be content.

      If you take a little for personal use (share), allow the bees to be bees, don’t manipulate them for your own end and ensure their health etc…and don’t clip wings and other barbaric acts, I get it. And if you’re not vegan and for some reason think you can’t possibly live a happy, healthy life without honey, do your thing. But don’t bag out Ethical Vegans whose sole reason for being so IS altruistic. And its impossible to know where everything comes from and how its produced. It’s still a non-vegan society we inhabit. We do all we possibly can to ensure that we do not perpetuate violence on other sentient beings. Treading accidentally on an ant is in no way comparable to purchasing a steak, ice cream or jar of mass produced honey…or now as I know it to be, almonds. I’ll be sharing this information. Almond production in Australia isn’t a big industry to my knowledge…

      Does anyone here on this thread eat Almonds? Or eat out or buy a product or snack containing honey or even honey that you don’t know how it is produced? If so why?

      Knowing what you know about the atrocities committed against bees and caring about bees as you do?

      We, as vegans, do the very best we can. Every day in every way. To mock or decry people doing their very best to cause the least harm possible while actually managing to “live in the world” shows more than insensitivity but a narrow-mindedness and judgement that clearly only works to support ones own desires and self interest, not the greater need of the animals who cannot speak for themselves or the planet we live on.

    Until now, I percieved the meaning different. Now, i cant help but question it. Is it , really, what it is? Even after , we are given additional education about what is? Its curious , as to the real reason some wont even taste this new bee free honey. Sounds to me, the convenience of having bee made honey outside of it’s natural season, outweighs the well being of all. Including the self. Interesting to me , as i also held a less than favorable opinion of bee free honey. It honestly made no sense to me. Until now. Now I get the reason behind it and now I~ someone not even close to being vegan~ will in fact give this a taste. Likelihoid is not very high that i will enjoy it as much as honey. However im willing to switch things up for the bigger and better picture. Contributing to what is, I now understand , may not be the best outlook In a world full off things that just shouldn’t be. Thanks for this, I appreciate the education.

  • I’m not a vegan and I never will be, but I do want to apply the principles of the lifestyle to mine. I created an interesting theory regarding livestock, fish and many other living creatures that are commonly consumed by both carnivorous humans and omnivorous humans such as myself. If we raise the animals humanely and let them die naturally, maybe meat collection could finally become humane. It’s a great idea, but it’s not perfect. It has a few flaws and the majority of other meat-eaters won’t agree because they’ll say things such as: “If you don’t kill the animal before they’re old, the meat will taste terrible,” or for the crazier bunch who take religion to the extremes, “God put animals on the planet just for us to eat.” The latter makes no sense because he created plants, too (Human beings are frugivores, but we’re still a type of omnivore. This is made clear by primates, fruit bats, etc.)

    But all in all, the important thing is that I actually want to try and help the environment in my own way. That’s why I’m trying to come up with cruelty-free livestock farming, hunting and fishing methods so we can let nature take its course instead of murdering them in cold blood. Speaking of livestock farming, I’ve seen the way they’re treated in factory farms and it makes me sick. No creature should have to go through that much suffering.

    As for avocados, there’s nothing positive to say. The environmental impact and the harm they cause the people around them are a living nightmare. Almonds are the lesser of two evils, but they’re still pretty bad. That’s why I want to try and grow these superfoods myself.

    It will require years of waiting, but the end product is what matters most of all. Creating a sophisticated irrigation system can benefit me, too. It can reduce my water footprint and give the trees just enough to grow and provide sustenance. I’m even thinking of following the same process bees use so I can make my own honey instead of stealing theirs.

  • Hello everyone. Thanks so much for this dialogue! It’s really great.

    I’ve been vegan since September because of a book I read called The Land of Meat and Honey. It’s not about current practices. It’s about “original instructions”. Check it out if you are are curious.

    That said, I’m older, 61. A sculptor. I came to this info asking what is vegan honey? It’s on an ingredients list for mustard—-I’m finally learning how to cook because no one here eats as I do now.

    And what did I find? I found you all; an incredible group of people discussing problems, solutions, inspiration, and creativity. This IS what will move each of us forward together.

    I’m old enough to feel the end approaching. I’ve been watching this pandemic-shut-down-world of 2020 wondering how we will proceed in the so-called new normal.

    I hope each of us will begin to explore our individual inner frontiers together. Let’s turn their U.N. Agenda 21, and 2030 on its head by evolving our earnest concerns using OUR designs.

    May we each respectfully find our independent way forward together. Thanks so much for this example of dialogue!

    • Tess,

      Thank you. And I agree, I have great readers/participants here at Honey Bee Suite. I’m grateful every day.

  • I came to this page after watching a YouTube video in which the creator made ‘vegan honey.’ Having never heard of it–and being a non-vegan, one who never understood that way of eating–I came here. Reading the article and the rebuttal, my mind still has the question of extremes: considering all the rationale and reasoning, if one does not eat a substance made by and for a natural creature like a bee, what possible end is hoped to be achieved? How much longer will one’s life be extended? How does one quantify the increased enjoyment in that life?

    Is being a vegan–I hate the term ‘veganism’ because it sounds cultish and derogatory–“a phase” that young people (and old former hippies, like me) go through to meet some amorphous standard? Are vegans one step away from being a fruitarian and one who only eats food that has been dropped to the ground from a tree or bush or (somehow) rejected underground by other roots?

    I just don’t get it and probably will never understand it.